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It all began earlier this month when Scott McNealy implied in an interview that the Open Source model would hamstring Sun completely in its attempt to out-gun Microsoft in the enterprise-level computing arena by threatening the licensing revenue Sun and others need to finance J2EE's advertising and R&D. Now the founder of JBoss, one of the most widely spread OS implementations of all, a full-fledged application server already in its 3.0 version, has published an online rebuttal of McNealy's remarks.

Writing on the main page of the JBoss site, www.jboss.org, Marc Fluery - who is also president of JBoss Group LLC - claims that OS in general "and JBoss in particular" are on the contrary "Sun's best defense against Microsoft .NET."

Can OS Help Save the App Server Tier from .NET?

"Only Open Source," Fleury argues, "has proven uniquely resilient to a Microsoft onslaught. In the same way that Linux has prevented MS NT from dominating the server operating system, JBoss will prevent .NET from making serious inroads into the application server tier, the crucial gateway to enterprise software applications."

Proprietary J2EE players like BEA Systems, according to Fleury, cannot help Sun half as much as JBoss. Here is his explanation of that: "Last time I talked to [BEA's CTO] Scott Dietzen. . .he claimed that they don't see .NET in the marketplace. Not surprising that .NET lacks visibility in the very pricey end of the enterprise market. At JBoss, we see it plenty. Not only do we see .NET coming into the market, we are good at defending the J2EE turf against it."

To Fleury, mind you, JBoss is (as the JBoss.org site proclaims) "the future of Java middleware." So in his view if you're not with JBoss then you're against JBoss. Fleury makes no bones about stating who he feels is lined up against OS: starting with William H. Gates III.

"Times have changed since the 1970s," Fleury says, "when a relative unknown by the name of Bill Gates argued that charging for software licenses was a necessity in order to finance the huge upfront R&D cost necessary to develop an operating system."

"Since that time," he continues, "the subsequent growth of the Internet and the accompanying improvement in Open Source developers' ability to collaborate and develop high-quality software challenge both Microsoft and Sun's assumption that software development need be accomplished at great expense."

As Fleury puts it, "Open Source software is not 'free' R&D, but it does come at a very small cost."

At JBoss, he points out "a lot of our professional motivation as developers is tied to the personal satisfaction that can be obtained through the Open Source lifestyle. It's about being your own boss, doing the work you enjoy, living and working where you want, collaborating with your peers worldwide, getting to see the kids grow up. By selling product-related services, many of us are able to work full time on JBoss, with an income as good, if not better, than any corporate development jobs I know of. Compared to the workplace opportunities of our parents' generation, this is priceless."

Income can always be generated from services rather than software licensing, he argues. The solution to financing development at JBoss Group is to pursue the services route.

Providing J2EE Services Can Be a "Moneymaking Machine"

"J2EE is a very services intensive market," Fleury points out. "Those who know how to take advantage of this are sitting on a moneymaking machine. We certainly aren't the only ones to come to this realization. It is also IBM's take on J2EE, where they often discount software licenses if they can make money on services, or, like Sun, on hardware."

Fleury saves his best shot till last. With what he calls "a concluding nod" to McNealy's own emphasis on advertising, he points out that there is one ad from Sun that particularly made an impression on him: the "Innovators Are Always Controversial" campaign from JavaOne 2002.

"If Sun really believes in continuing to embrace innovation," Fleury declares, "they need to adapt to this new Open Source software production mode. For our part, we, the Open Source developers of JBoss, recognize and respect the pioneering work that Sun has done with Java and the J2EE standard. We repeat our offer to work together. We ask Sun to back us and help us to build and market J2EE into one of the best standards and brands the software industry has ever seen."

JDJ News Desk expects to be able to bring you Sun's reply very soon in a subsequent report.

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We came to the same realization just about 2 years back. As a result we developed a complete End-to-End Internet Infrastructure Platform based exclusively on Apache licensing model. One of the things here is the Web Services Development and Deployment Environment. We need to realize that a future of Internet will be defined in this name space.

I am no fan of Microsoft, but I think it should be remembered that .NET offers cross language development. A "write everything in Java" solution is not sufficient. Ideally interfaces to and calls from other languages (python, php, perl, C, etc) would be supported. Not everyone wants to code business applications in Java, or be forced to rewrite existing ones.

Here are examples I have found:

RealMethods 2.0
Xyrian Developer
Altoweb 2.8
FrontierSuite for JDO 1.1

Whats the hangup on 2.4.x?

This is something that I've been curious about myself. In our application we use JEdit, Ant, JBoss, CVS, and things from the Apache group like FOP for PDF processing. All freely available software. But as far as an open source development package, we haven't seen anything we like so far.

JBuilder is greate but expensive.....


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Peter Kinev wrote: We came to the same realization just about 2 years back. As a result we developed a complete End-to-End Internet Infrastructure Platform based exclusively on Apache licensing model. One of the things here is the Web Services Development and Deployment Environment. We need to realize that a future of Internet will be defined in this name space.
Rick Burque wrote: I am no fan of Microsoft, but I think it should be remembered that .NET offers cross language development. A "write everything in Java" solution is not sufficient. Ideally interfaces to and calls from other languages (python, php, perl, C, etc) would be supported. Not everyone wants to code business applications in Java, or be forced to rewrite existing ones.
Dennis Carroll wrote: Here are examples I have found: RealMethods 2.0 Xyrian Developer Altoweb 2.8 FrontierSuite for JDO 1.1 Whats the hangup on 2.4.x?
Dustin Metzgar wrote: This is something that I've been curious about myself. In our application we use JEdit, Ant, JBoss, CVS, and things from the Apache group like FOP for PDF processing. All freely available software. But as far as an open source development package, we haven't seen anything we like so far.
Tore Gard Andersen wrote: JBuilder is greate but expensive.....
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